Ep. 160- So Long, Co-Host; Hello, Crippling Self-Doubt and New Frontiers

Little Helpers, this is a new era for this community: This is my first episode as the solo host of "A Little Help For Our Friends." It's Dr. Kibby and we're saying goodbye to my beloved co-host, Jacqueline Trumbull as she moves on from this podcast. This will be a new phase focused on what made this community matter from day one: centering caregivers, loved ones, people-pleasers, and supporters who carry the unseen weight of mental illness and addiction.

I revisit the show’s roots in evidence-based tools and how it grew into something braver—real stories about dating, divorce, near-death experiences, and the messy work of healing. I cover ethical storytelling, protecting privacy, and navigating the fallout when personal narratives collide with public platforms, including (gasp!) a legal threat.

The heart of this episode explores identity and roles: how duos create chemistry and cages, how therapists are trained to be “non-persons,” and why an audience hungers for a human voice over a blank slate. I lay out where we’re headed next—deep dives into secure attachment, nervous system regulation, family dynamics, and communication that actually works—alongside a slate of guests from neuroscience, therapy, and creative fields. Expect practical skills, warmer storytelling, and more of the full person behind the mic, from Berlin chapters to yoga studios to the moments that don’t come packaged as lessons.

This show remains the official podcast of KulaMind, a community made for loved ones who want connection, skills, and a place to be seen. It's also the company I literally built from my bed while trying to beat cancer.

Little Helpers, this is your space- Share your stories, tell me when I'm wrong, and shape what comes next. Email me at kibby@kulamind.com.

 If this podcast has helped you feel less alone—or if you’re just finding us now—subscribe, leave a five-star review, and pass the episode to a friend who needs a steady voice today. It's our time now.

• Transcript

  Dr. Kibby McMahon: 0:00

  Hi guys, welcome to A Little Help for Our Friends, a podcast for people with loved ones struggling with mental health. Hey, Little Helpers, it's Dr. Kibby, and I have a huge announcement for you. After several wonderful years of really meaningful conversations, A Little Help for Our Friends is entering a new chapter. My co-host, Jacqueline Trumbull, has decided to step away from the podcast to focus on new directions. So today is going to be different. It's my first solo episode. I'm talking to myself in a void, which is really weird. And I'm going to talk about all that we've built here, this community, this podcast. I'll give a little bit of insight on what it was behind the scenes. And then going to talk about this next era of a little help for our friends. We're still going. I'm going to take up the mantle and I'm going to try to do Jaclyn Proud and take this forward for all of you. So this podcast has been a really special thing for both me and Jacqueline and a lot of you who have been so nice telling us that you're listening, telling us how you've helped us in some way by listening to maybe one of our stories where we were going through something similar to what you were. So this has been just an amazing, amazing experience. And it's, I mean, I can't get around that. I'm I'm feeling really sad today. I've tried to record this a bunch of times, and every time I did, I ended up crying or just getting so tired and unable to really gather my thoughts to do this. So I have to acknowledge that this is a mourning period and this is grieving a loss. It was pretty hard to do this podcast over the years. I mean, Jacqueline and I have been through so many different things. We started when it was like in the middle of COVID. I think it was 2020, uh, about five years ago. Oh God, I can't believe that. So the reason why we started this podcast is because I got a grant for my dissertation. And the grant uh required me to do some kind of community outreach to make science accessible to the broader public outside of academia, which I loved, which was something that I've been dying to do. But I didn't really didn't know where to start. I mean, I had been an academic, I had been a psychologist, and I I'll talk more about this, but I have really identified as someone who's just like the nerd behind the scenes, right? So someone who um gets gets the whole stage together, but is not actually on the stage. So doing any kind of public outreach or communication seemed really scary to me. But I thought, okay, let me, let me, maybe a blog. What am I gonna do? And that's when Jacqueline came into our program and she had experience with podcasts through The Bachelor, and we liked the same things. We liked talking about personality disorders and relationships. So she was like, you know, let's just do a podcast. So it really was just like a fun thing for us to do together. It was just a fun project. We didn't really think much of it or where it was gonna end up. And we started in COVID, and I remember that we had a script and we were so nervous we actually had to record the that one episode like five different times. Um, reading, we wanted to be so professional. We read every everything and like described different um dialectical behavioral therapy skills to uh deal with the pandemic, like improve the moment into stress tolerance and stuff. We wanted to be like good, good students. And so the the reason why we put on this podcast is because at Duke, there was this program called Through Thick and Thin for family members and loved ones of people with mental illness and emotion dysregulation. And that was so cool. That was something that we really resonated with. And we wanted to grow this community. We wanted to reach people who couldn't just come into those classes at Duke. And we did. It was just like this interesting, this interesting angle of centering the loved ones, the caregivers, supporters in the story instead of the identified patient. And it really clicked with a lot of people. I think that us, Jacqueline and I both have, you know, we've talked about this a lot, but I have a lot of mental health and addiction history in my family. My mom struggled with alcoholism and other emotional issues. And Jaclyn's family has also struggled with that too. And be us being like the psychologists, the ones who, the ones who are like less crazy, less, less out of control, we were always seeing our story through the lens of these other people who need more help, right? Like looking back on the struggles and traumas of our childhood as like someone else was going through a trauma and we were witnessing it. But yet it was still our experience. So that was really confusing. And so when we started talking about how mental health is a community illness, a relational illness, that really resonated with a lot of people. So doing the podcast, at first, we were like, okay, let's just get skills out there. Let's just, let's just get, you know, some information that we know from science and clinical work and try to spread it to a broader community. And it became something so much more than that, at least for me. I'm speaking for myself, this whole episode of speaking for myself. What we noticed was resonating with our audience with you guys is getting more personal, getting more vulnerable, bringing in real stories. So we'd bring in stories from our listeners or our friends. Um, whenever we I want to make this clear, whenever we talk about patients, our patient work, confidentiality and privacy is number one. So actually, when you hear us saying, Oh, we have a patient who blah, blah, blah, we're actually changing almost all of the identifying information. Um, so that, you know, sometimes when we said a friend or, you know, a patient, we were meaning different things and we're kind of, you know, we did everything we could to protect people's privacy. So I want to say that if we ever share the story, um, you share your story out here, it's it was intentionally hidden in a way that would protect you. So people really liked hearing real stories. You know, all these, I see this on social media, all this like talk about what trauma is and what gaslighting is, and person, narcissists, they're so evil. But it really seems almost kind of like, you know, fairy tale language, like so general, right? It's like almost like this villain of the story and how to detect them and how and how to understand trauma and mental health, right? But lived experiences really were the things that resonated for people. Cause I was like, oh, oh, that's what, that's what I've experienced. Oh my God, that's I didn't realize I was in an abusive relationship, right? So as we noticed that the stories were resonating with people, that's when we started to get more personal ourselves, right? And we would tell about our dating, our dating history and all of our mistakes. And it got into the point where we're talking about, you know, my childhood trauma, um, stuff that I was processing in real time. I mean, in this past season, the there's a self-hatred episode in season five, where we're I basically was so triggered with my own childhood trauma that we were gonna record something entirely different that night, and we decided to talk about that because I had been healing from cancer, and I was surprised to see that all my childhood stuff was just like coming flooding in in ways I didn't expect. So, you know, so in many ways, this podcast became like therapy, you know, in a different way. Um, and a way to connect to you guys and to each other in ways that we haven't before. Like I didn't experience that in other spaces. So it became really special. And um it was hard. There was a lot of downsides to it. I mean, the amount of legal clearance we needed to get from Duke and to have a disclaimer at the end to say that this is just information, it's not, it's not therapy, and to protect um, patient information. But also just when we were talking about our real lives. So there were people who we were talking about that were affected and listening, right? Like our family members, our friends, um, all the things that we were struggling with. I mean, we had to bring in here. Like we I went through a divorce. Jacqueline went through a really difficult relationship. I mean, it was crazy. She broke off the engagement, but we still all had the flights to the wedding. So we all went to Portugal and had like a non-wedding there. And then both of us got into new relationships. And then I got, I had a baby and I had cancer. And all of that is documented in this podcast. It really is such a cool diary of a friendship and diary of a crazy changing time in our lives. I'm so grateful. I mean, anyone who's thinking about starting a podcast, do it. Even if it's just for yourself to vlog, I recommend. But it I would say it's it was really hard. There was a lot of parts of it that were really difficult. The first thing is that we were trained to be psychologists who kept keeps everything under wraps, right? Like the old psychoanalysis model, the old Freudian model. It's like you literally are behind a person while they're lying down doing therapy. They don't see you. You're like a voice in their head intentionally. You're supposed to be a non-person, a blank slate, so that patients can just project all of their stuff onto you, right? So the the tradition of psychology is like you're like as a therapist, you're a non-person. And I'm very good at being a non-person in many ways. Like that is something that I've gotten very used to. Um so even stepping into this podcast was a step in the direction of I am stepping out from behind the scenes. I am exposing myself in ways that was really risky. Like people, like my patients and people I work with, they can listen to details of my divorce. They could listen to what I went through as a child. They, you know, all the mistakes I made in my last marriage and um what it was like to go through chemo. I mean, that's all stuff that normally I wouldn't even show any of my patients. And now people can listen to it in depth. So, I mean, a lot of people criticized it. A lot of people thought that that was non-professional, that was a risk, that um that that was a problem for patients. And we kept doing it anyway because we really did feel the impact of it on some of you. And I think that psychology is reaching a new era where no longer are do we trust a blank slate anymore, right? Well, maybe AI isn't AI Chat GPT is like the new blank slate, like the new Freudian um the psychoanalysis, but uh people want to connect to people. And because we're behind screens all the time, we want to see into each other's lives. We want that human connection more than ever. And I feel like every time I shared something really personal and got really vulnerable, people trusted me more. I'm sure some people trusted me less, but there were many people who reach out and said, Thank you for sharing that. I've been through something similar, I've had similar struggles. Um, and to just connect to that made them feel really seen. And that's all I ever want. That's all I ever want in this life is for people to feel seen. I don't achieve that all the time, but I try. That's my main goal. I I have chronic issues with not feeling seen. Um, and that feeling of someone you care about or someone you trust reflecting your own experiences back to you. There's no other feeling like that in the world for me. And I know for other people. So if this helps people feel seen, I'm willing to do it. Now, there have been a lot of problems with it, for example. Um I'm not gonna go into so many of the details because this is more Jacqueline's story, but um, the part that is my story is that we did talk a lot about her breakup throughout the podcast um with her uh ex-fiance. And it really was kind of like revealing the levels of abuse in real time. Like at first we were all excited about it, and then slowly it revealed itself to be a really unhealthy relationship for many reasons. And you can listen to old episodes to hear that. And this was her space. So, you know, we've had episodes about her talking about the breakup, breaking off the engagement. And we knew that, for example, um, the her ex and probably her ex's family members were listening to it. So we won really wanted to be respectful and talked more. She would talk way more about her own problems, her own stuff points, um, what she did wrong and what it was like for her. Um, and still, uh still we got shit for it. Um, I'll read you a little email that I got from the ex. Um, and this is directly to me, so I feel like I have the right to read it out loud, and I'm probably gonna get in trouble for this, but I don't sure. Um, it says, and this is when I was fully pregnant, right? This is, I think, like, I think I was in the second trimester, so I was fully pregnant. I'm supporting my friend through this horrible breakup, which you know had different ripple effects throughout our friend group, right? Like everyone was upset, we're talking on the phone a lot, like getting calls from her friends and family. And then I get this email. Um, I'll be just part of it. So, hey Kibby, before entering a legal battle that I'd rather avoid, I figure I'd give you the opportunity to remove from your podcast the two more recent episodes on how to spark a narcissist and on my breakup with Jaclyn. My lawyer, John Esposito, parentheses, who's Bill Clinton's lawyer too, and means business, is keen on sending you and Jacqueline a cease and desist order and is also keen on initiating a lawsuit for defamation. He thinks it's a particular particularly strong case given that A, it's clear that you're referring to me in the Narcissus episode, and B, Jacqueline was on the batcher, which means she's got a lot of clout. I asked him to hold off on any legal action for the time being, noting that first email you and attempt to avoid a legal battle. Though I should note he's on a retainer, so I have him for as many hours as I need at no additional cost. Okay, so that was the risk of doing this podcast. I mean, that that email was just so insane. I felt and like it triggered so many things in me. I was um, so I was pregnant, I was so emotionally charged up. I was like shaking. I was really scared um to feel attacked like that. And to be clear, we the how to spot a narcissist was not referring to him. I mean, we didn't mention his name. We we talked about like past people, um, but he certainly read himself into that. So um so we had to take those episodes down, and um, it was really scary. And it was so frustrating because he was bullying us. And um, I just love that uh he's built Clinton's lawyer means business. We still we I still kind of like make fun of that line. Um, means business. Uh so yeah, I mean, there were a lot of risks with putting out these episodes. And not only that, it was hard to do logistically. I mean, Jacqueline and I have lived in all these different places. We I think we started when I was in New York and she was in Durham, and then uh, and then we had moves. Like she moved to New York, I had a baby, got sick, right? These past few years since COVID, we were all over the place and we would bring our podcast equipment to trips. Um, I remember going to Coachella and sitting on the floor of my hotel room, waiting for a quiet moment and uh getting out all my podcast equipment and doing it, doing the episode on the floor. Um and we've done it abroad, we've done it like all over the place. So it was really hard to figure out logistically. And especially as soon as I had a kid. I mean, I know that people are afraid that your lives change when you have a kid. And that's a really valid concern. This is what I say to my patients and people who say, Oh, I'm so scared. Like things are gonna change when I have a kid. And I'm like, yeah, that's a really real fear. That's like, I'm super validating. It is. That is 100% true. Your life will change. Um, and it changes friendships. And I think it was a big difference between us. Like I could kind of feel it. I went through postpartum depression, but I could feel that my life was so different. My reality was so different from my friends like Jacqueline, who didn't have kids. We prioritized things differently, my energy was different. Um, I had less patience for things. And, you know, just the kind of the flow and the flexibility and the fun, spontaneity that we did this podcast was much harder for me when I had like, let's say, a baby in the next room that I was trying to put down so that I could record. So that was tough. That was really tough. And I can't believe that we, you know, we we had a lot of arguments about stuff like that, and we worked through it and kept going, you know, adjusting to less frequent um episodes. But, you know, I did this podcast while going through chemo. I was like losing my hair, I was nauseous, I was weak, I thought it was gonna die, and yet we still showed up here. And it's interesting to think about what's gonna happen without Jacqueline. And I think it's less about the podcast and more like what happens when you have a major transition in a friendship. When someone's a narcissist or when someone is anxious attachment, and and we want to categorize people into something, right? Like you are a this kind of person. But the more that we've talked about these topics on this podcast or relationships, and the more that Jaclyn and I had worked together, it really seems more like we are co-creating dynamics and we are creating identities in a relationship. I was a type of person in my dynamic with Jacqueline. And in ways that I wasn't that kind of person when I wasn't around her. You get pigeonholed in these little roles, right? These really specific one note roles, where one of our one of our listeners, I hope you're listening to this, she said that our dynamic was like Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew on Love Line, and they have new podcasts. So that duo talks about um uh sex questions and um all these kind of things, like with for for men. Um, but Adam Carolla is like the funny, charismatic, loud one. And then Dr. Drew is like the more serious, nerdy, brainy one. So I remember I went to Jacqueline and I said, you know that our our our listeners think that I'm the Dr. Drew and you're the Adam Corolla. And she was like, Do I want to be the Adam Corolla? And I was like, Do I want to be the Dr. Drew? It's so funny to think that our identities are in relation to the people around us. That's what identity is. An identity is how you position yourself and are seen in a community, in relationships. I know that we want to figure out who we are, you know, without any external validation, but that is not realistic. We grow up with other people. My identity is how I defined me and my qualities and my behaviors and choices compared to someone else, right? Um and my identity with Jacqueline was this Dr. Drew or this um this more serious version. The first thing that popped my mind was Burton Ernie, like I'm the Bert and she's the Ernie, which is so sad. But I was like the nerdy one and she was the fun one. Like I was the bet, like she was the pretty one, and I was the uh like loyal best friend kind of thing. At least that's how I saw myself in our in our dynamic. That dynamic had its advantages, right? When you have a duo like that, you have complimentary personalities, but it also pigeonholes you into a role, right? I'm sure that all of you in your family, when you go home to your family, you are like the hero of the family, or the scapegoat, or the funny one, or um anything else. And then when you're with your friends, you might be a completely different person. And I feel like over time that podcast, or at least our dynamic, put us in those boxes of, you know, the fun one and the and the nerdy one, even though both of us have a blend of both. She told these fun, silly stories, um, colorful stories. And I was a little bit more self-deprecating and gave a little bit more of the information. Um, but I think over time, I'm speaking for myself, Jacqueline, if you're listening. Um, I think over time that really hurt us. I think it hurts people to be put in specific roles and identities and boxed into only one thing. I never really let myself develop other parts of me, especially in this podcast. Um, which I will and I'll talk about what that means for the podcast, but it it almost became like I became a character. I didn't get become Kibby, my full self. And the same thing for her. And I think that it makes sense that she wants to move on to other things. She's starting um a new life in North Carolina with a lovely fiance, and um uh uh she's going to private practice. So her life is gonna look a lot different than all the stories she shared of dating in New York and all that and going on the bachelor. Her life is just very different. And it makes sense that she wants to make room for that and to be seen differently than she used to. And same for me. I mean, it is really terrifying to do this for a number of reasons. And you guys who have reached out and talked to us about your stories, we could hear a theme of people who really care, really care for the people around them, identify as caregivers or nurturing people, or the moms or dads, um, the empaths, people pleasers, the people who we call like the emotional anchor of the family, who hold everything together, right? They so everyone else can stay afloat. And I certainly identify with that. I think my best qualities are my ability to read other people, my ability to see other people and what they're trying to tell me and what they feel. Um, try to figure out how to make someone happy, right? And so much in my life, I've looked down on myself for that. Like I'm I'm proud because I know it's a skill and ability, but I'm also I also devalue myself for that. So there's a real conflict around the ability to see and lift and support other people. Be being other-oriented is bad in the society. At least this is how I feel. I feel like at the same time, like academia and psychology and places like here, I usually feel most useful when I could lift someone else up. Like people like me more. My the people in my life love me more. Um, this is part of my like core belief, and it's a limiting belief, but it's almost like the more I can lift someone up, the more valuable I am to them. Which of course makes sense. But what that means is that I have put myself behind the front man all the time. I'm constantly looking for people who have charisma and are easily bring attention to themselves and who can stand in the room and flirt and seduce the room and draw the attention to them, right? Um, often they are narcissists or histrionic or something, but there's something about that personality that I'm drawn to because I am really good at letting someone else fill the space. And they love to fill the space and they do it well. Um I used to be a photographer, right? I used I am a psychologist. I let I create the space for other people to shine. And so it's really challenging for something like this, where now I had to step out of that dynamic. I have to step out from behind the stage and get on the stage and center myself in the story, which is the whole point of this podcast, is for the people who are caregivers and supporters to be seen as the main character of the story. So it's a real meta journey that will all go on. And I'm really terrified because I'm like, what if people just came to listen to Jaclyn Sponge stories? Or um she was a charming one and I'm the boring one. Like, what does that mean? And I won't know until I take that risk. Right? I can't tell all of you to be your authentic selves and validate yourself and prioritize yourself in difficult relationships when I'm not doing the same. So that will be the new chapter of A Little Help for our friends. And still gonna focus on how do we heal mental health through connection? Right? Let's focus on mental illness and addiction and all of these emotional pain as something that's happening within a family, within a group, within a community, right? It's not just one person suffering from a mental illness, it's really a sickness in the system. Right. I want to keep focusing on that and really understanding how do we build family. I don't just mean biological family, but I mean family in all sense of the word. How do we build secure attachments to the people in our lives? Right? We are so lonely these days. We are so lonely. We spend so much time on our phones looking at windows into other people's constructed fake lives, and we're not feeling that connection, right? We're not feeling seen. It's we're only feeling seen through the through the class. And people are confused more than ever. How do you actually build a family and a connection? Is it all about just going no contact and breaking off and just being yourself? Well, some sometimes, sometimes that's necessary in order to find yourself and and to differentiate yourself. But what does it actually mean to build healthy, connected, loving, secure relationships? That is something we'll continually focus on in this podcast. And I'm going to bring out more sides of me. I I haven't really talked a lot about my years in Berlin. I haven't talked a lot about my years as a yoga teacher and a high massage therapist who was over in a rice patty in Thailand working with people from all over the world. I haven't told some of my crazier stories because I intentionally, maybe not intentionally, but subconsciously hid them because I was like, I'm not the fun one. All right. I'm go, I'm only going to tell a crazy story if it's something that is like a lesson or something self-deprecating, but I'm not going to tell just like a funny dating story, but I have so many of those. So there's just going to be a lot more of different aspects of my life and my my deep lifelong journey of trying to understand connection. Um, talk a lot more about that. We're going to have amazing guests. We're we're going to we notice that people are interested in understanding narcissistic abuse, nervous system, um, the neuroscience behind attachment, uh, family dynamics, and how to actually communicate well, set boundaries, and find yourself and regulate your own emotions. So I will have tons of guests for that. Um, because I also have all these friends in like neuroscience and film and entertainment and all these places that I haven't pulled in yet. So that's going to be a really exciting chapter. And as always, the reason why I did this, the reason why I did any of this podcast is to build a community, is for people to who feel alone and unseen to feel connected and seen. So cool of mind, I've mentioned that a bunch of times, but cool of mind is the community that we built for you, for you, our little helpers. It is a course, really. It's an online course where we I teach all I keep saying we. It's it's so hard to change that habit, but I'll just start saying I. I built cool of mind. So people like you can have a place and connect to each other and learn the skills that I teach on this podcast in a community with other people struggling with the same things. Um, so I'll always talk about Cool of Mind here. Uh, but just if you're ever curious, just look on our website, coolamind.com, K-U-L-A-M-I-N D.com. This podcast is considered the official podcast of Coola Mind. And I'm never gonna have any other ads on this podcast. I really don't like hearing ads, but um, I'm gonna constantly give updates about this cool mind community and I want all of us to grow together. So I want this to be something for you. I want you to feel seen. So if you want to give us your story, us, God, give me your story. If you want to give me your story, if you want to give me questions to tackle, um, requests for topics that we haven't covered, complaints. I want to hear complaints. Actually, I found that the people who have reached out to me and said, hey, the thing that you talked about was so offensive. It didn't give the whole picture, it didn't represent my experience. Those have been the best conversations because that's where I'm like, yeah, thank you. I do this to learn about a lot of different topics that I haven't delved into myself. So I want to know where I'm missing, right? I'm kind of putting out what I can read on my own or want to think on my own, but I want to hear from you. What am I missing? Please tell me. So you could always email me at kibby at coolamine.com, k-a-i-b Y at coolamind, k-U-L-A-M-I-N-D.com. Or there is a feature in the show notes that if all the way at the top, it says send me a text. Just click on that and it'll just let you send a message. I can't really respond back to that for some reason. So if you want me to engage in the conversation with you, email is the best, or you can put your email there. But please, I want to hear from you. I want to feature you as the center of this podcast, which you always were, but let's learn how to be seen together. So I'm so excited for the next chapter. I'm also mourning the loss of the five beautiful years that I had with Jacqueline. I wish her the very best. I have utmost respect for her and love for her. And I also want to say that I held on to this dynamic in this podcast with her for even when it was hard, because it was the place I felt most connected to her. And I'm being really honest with that. I have a hard time letting myself have the space, emotional space in relationships. And I feel like it was the time where we can talk most in depth and slow down and give each other that attention, right? To have a whole hour where I'm talking about myself and my pain and having her just listen. The only way I can do that with her was to think that I was doing it to help one of you, to like um, you know, shed light on a similar experience that you've had, or to just offer it in some way of service, right? That was the only way I felt truly comfortable doing that with her. And, you know, in our day-to-day friendship, we would just be texting each other and kind of like griping about whatever's going on in the day. But the podcast was a space where we really sat down, slowed down, and focused on one topic together. And it was one of the best parts of our friendship. And I will miss it, but I'm really sad about it and it's a huge loss, and I'm grieving it. Um I felt really seen and connected with her in here. And it feels weird to continue on without her. And I'm sure it's weird for all of you. But I think it's time for a change. So thank you so much, little helpers, for going on this huge journey together. 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